Sept. 16, 2021

NSFW Pod 020 - Vex Voltage

NSFW Pod 020 - Vex Voltage

In this episode we interview Vex Voltage.  Vex is an award winning altporn actress, model, stripper, filthy animal, pole demon, and she collects dead stuff.  I stole this from her Twitter description.  We discuss doing adult video work, how to vet offers, and some other things.

Photo Credit - Amelia G and Forrest Black - Blueblood.com


In this episode we interview Vex Voltage.  Vex is an award winning altporn actress, model, stripper, filthy animal, pole demon, and she collects dead stuff.  I stole this from her Twitter description.  We discuss doing adult video work, how to vet offers, and some other things.  

Vex can be found online at:
Twitter - VexVoltage
Linktree - Vexvoltage

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Transcript

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[00:00:00] Matthew Holliday: Good day, everyone. And welcome back to the not safe for work photography by our guest today, we're interviewing Vex voltage. Vex is an award winning Alport actress bottle, stripper they'll theme, animal pull demon, and she collects dead stuff. How are you doing today of ex.  

[00:00:27] Vex Voltage: I'm good. How are you?  

[00:00:29] Matthew Holliday: I am doing pretty good. It's almost the weekend. 

I know it probably isn't when we release this, but thanks to the beauty of time travel. It's almost the weekend.  

[00:00:37] Vex Voltage: Yay.  

[00:00:39] Matthew Holliday: Yeah. I'm there with you. So this one is a little different than our typical. Most of the interviews for this podcast have been with photographers and models who typically do glamour or art nude. 

Many of the interviews I've done erotic and explicit work, but we haven't really discussed it. So the podcast does have the explicit tag. You really shouldn't be surprised about anything that is talked about, but I have a feeling this one might be a little more explicit than we've had in the past. So if that's not really your bag baby, then maybe you should skip this. 

So let's start with your pin. Tweet backs looks like you want a fan favorite award at the alt port awards this year. 

[00:01:19] Vex Voltage: I did. I had just gotten back from shooting in Vegas. When the awards were virtual. And I knew I was nominated. And I knew just based on my fans, re-tweeting stuff that they had been voting for me. I just didn't know how religiously they were voting for me. And I ended up winning the fan favorite bass shoot, which I was on, I was strapped to a BDSM wheel and Emilia G and forest black shot me for Gothic sluts and Gothics let's dot com and all star magazine.  

[00:01:53] Matthew Holliday: That's interesting. So it was a video scene and a print scene as well. 

[00:01:57] Vex Voltage: No. It was a series of photos. We did a bunch of different photo sets with a bunch of different outfits. But the one that everybody loved I was strapped to the wheel and then they would gradually they would turn it. And then by the end of it, I was naked with a gag in my mouth. And it was one of the hook gags so that it forces you to smell.  

[00:02:19] Matthew Holliday: All right. That's fair. What is all porn? How's it different than standard porn? 

[00:02:25] Vex Voltage: All porn? 

features individuals of a subculture. Usually they're going to have body modifications, like tattoos, piercings, scarification a variety of different stuff that you wouldn't see in quote unquote, normal porn. And it's just body modifications of a wide range.  

[00:02:46] Matthew Holliday: interesting, so that doesn't have to do it. The fetish side of it. It's more on the performer.  

Interesting. 

[00:02:52] Vex Voltage: It, all porn can be, basic fucking all the way to just the craziest shit you could think of.  

[00:03:02] Matthew Holliday: I have no comment on that. Anyways, I was just talking with, I think fervid Fe a couple of weeks ago and she was talking about, ah, I don't remember if it was her or not, because I was somebody that I was interviewing. They were talking about how they wanted to be a suicide girl, because they thought the suicide girls. 

We're just like the real alt and then they were like, eh, no, it's just really Playboy. But with tattoos. 

[00:03:29] Vex Voltage: I okay. So I always try to tell. Like up like upcoming or new models that you don't need suicide girls. I think that they play a favorites game. So I just never have shown any interest in wanting to put myself in that position and giving their site my hard work for them to decide whether they want to publish. 

So you can do all this on your own. It's all about networking.  

[00:03:59] Matthew Holliday: That's interesting. I didn't know that. So suicide girls, when you submit your stuff to them, they don't have to publish it. They don't have to pay you. How does that licensing work? You just sign over all the licensing to them and they just do whatever with it. 

[00:04:14] Vex Voltage: I believe it's a contract thing.  

[00:04:17] Matthew Holliday: Interesting. I'll have to talk. I'll have to find somebody that's modeled for them and dive into the details of that. 

[00:04:22] Vex Voltage: Before that they decide to publish you. You're considered a hopeful. And I just, it just sounds so degrading, which like what the fuck? Like suicide girl hopeful, like it, it just, it makes it, it makes other people I've talked to that have tried doing it. It made them feel shitty. And I understand why. Because it's that word like hopeful is what it sounds fucking shitty. Like it's you're not good enough. And I'm like, fuck this shit doing the ship itself.  

[00:04:56] Matthew Holliday: So we'll actually get into that in a bit, but we're going to work our way through the questions cause I am a methodical human. So do you do well, I guess it's just the question. You do photographic modeling and to do a video work both. Correct. 

[00:05:08] Vex Voltage: I do. I'm like a slowly Swiss army knife.  

[00:05:14] Matthew Holliday: I'm going to have to remember that one. That's good. A wish. 

[00:05:19] Vex Voltage: I don't know. I don't really have a preference because if I get sick of one, I can rely more on the other one so I can avoid burnout.  

[00:05:28] Matthew Holliday: That's fair for somebody that has never done. Let's assume someone's listening to this. That's never done video work. How does it differ from photographic? 

[00:05:38] Vex Voltage: There's a bunch of different types of video work that you can do. Like you can do interpretive dance, you can, I don't know what the market for that is, but I do know that  

[00:05:47] Matthew Holliday: there's always someone. 

[00:05:48] Vex Voltage: well, yeah, like interpretive dance like just art pieces, like horror. There's a lot of different. Thing, like a lot of different little puddles you can dip your toe into and see where that takes you because you end up finding out you like doing something you didn't know even existed or that you might even thought you liked.  

[00:06:11] Matthew Holliday: All right. How about in terms of, so I've never shot video before, so I am completely unaware of what goes on behind on a video. But then when you're doing photography, usually, there's lots of pausing, hold the post shoot, move to a new pose, shoot directions, some back and forth. When you're shooting video, are there other lots of takes of the same scene? 

Is it mostly kind of prep time? Do you run through it a couple of times without the camera first? What's the general work. 

[00:06:41] Vex Voltage: It depends on what. Type of video I'm shooting. If I'm shooting a video for many vids or my only fans I have in my head where I want the video to go. And this is obviously solo stuff because I filmed by myself. I, record, edit all that. And I'm worried mostly about the background, like what all is in the shot. 

So I'm worried about. Background what is this body part doing? What's this body part doing? How does this look? Camera angle is another big thing. I'm just, I don't want to call myself a perfectionist, but people will know what I mean. If I say that, I feel  

[00:07:25] Matthew Holliday: no, it's interesting. You call it the background. That's usually one of the easiest ways to pick out an amateur photographer, is like weird random shit in the background or they're so focused. Yeah. They're so focused on the pretty girl in the frame that they ignore all the weird shit and crap in the background. 

[00:07:40] Vex Voltage: Yeah. 

I'll reshoot an entire video. If there's a piece of something in the, in my video.  

[00:07:48] Matthew Holliday: Do you, so when you shoot solo work, do you have a studio? Did you like convert a room in your house or apartment or whatever? 

[00:07:54] Vex Voltage: Yeah. 

I'm in a one bedroom apartment and the bedroom. I have converted into a studio area. So I have a bar hanging from the ceiling that I can attach backdrops to. My bed is in my living room. It's, that's like the. My common like crash area. But in the back I have a cat, like a sectional couch. 

I have the chairs, I have some furniture I have the stack of backdrops jewelry. I have a table back there, safety pins, just like nails, hammers, like tools, stuff that I can use to quickly shift stuff around and make it look like a totally different room. If I have. I find tuned all of this very heavily during the pandemic.  

[00:08:39] Matthew Holliday: Yeah, I guess that's a good time for it. So what other income streams do you maintain? 

[00:08:44] Vex Voltage: I'm a stripper. I usually my regular I've been stripping for about as long as I've been doing porn since late 2018. So mostly. My regulars are businessmen. So I worked during the day and sometimes I'll stay like into the night. It's not always, it's not easy. And obviously, and it's not always, a ton of money. 

Some days I'll make four figures and then other days I won't even break a hundred dollars. So it's one of those coin tosses. So I consider stripping a supplement, like a supplement. Income. My main source of income are I'm the only fans in many bids. Like all, I consider all my internet sales to be part of my main source of income, because my main career is porn.  

[00:09:35] Matthew Holliday: okay. 

[00:09:36] Vex Voltage: Photo-shoots my gut booked for a lot of photo shoots out in Vegas. When I went this past spring.  

And then, people will want me for their horror movies or like their projects or like advice or something. So projects is definitely another supplemental income.  

[00:09:53] Matthew Holliday: that's cool, actually. And I'm curious, typically for projects like that, do you charge the same rate or how does that. 

[00:10:01] Vex Voltage: It depends what it is. I it really, it depends what it is. If it's like a topless scene, that's going to be shot like in the middle of winter. It's I'm charging the person more. Sorry, not sorry,  

[00:10:18] Matthew Holliday: yeah. Level of just comfort. 

[00:10:20] Vex Voltage: yeah, if it's if it's like just an outdoor shoot where, I'm in clothes, it's not, it's going to be significantly less than my minute.  

[00:10:29] Matthew Holliday: Gotcha. Yeah, I know there's a lot of discussion amongst the modeling community about, having one rate versus multiple rates. And while I'm sympathetic to the whole single rate you're worth a certain amount of money. Some sometimes. Some things just can't afford that, unfortunately. 

[00:10:48] Vex Voltage: Yeah, and I don't think anybody should, what works for one model. Doesn't always work for another. Everyone's got to remember that every everyone is different because everyone has a different target audience.  

[00:11:04] Matthew Holliday: All right. So how did you get into doing this kind of work? 

[00:11:06] Vex Voltage: I was, I knew I was always good at taking photos of myself. But I was told I'd probably be good at modeling because I pay attention to what every single part of my body is doing in a photo. I think that's just because I'm such like a perfectionist about it. Just not to use that fucking word again. And then I found out it was like, okay, maybe I can do this. And then I was like, all right, I enjoy this fuck nine to five. I'm never doing that shit again. So yeah, I've never regretted what I do a day in my career.  

[00:11:43] Matthew Holliday: That's awesome. Speaking to somebody who's currently regretting their nine to five,  

[00:11:47] Vex Voltage: Oh, God.  

[00:11:49] Matthew Holliday: Yeah, I'm just the problem is I need to work out a little and get in better shape before I can go be a stripper. 

How do you as a model and an actress vet who is hiring. 

[00:12:02] Vex Voltage: Okay this whole so I at least get anywhere between three to five professional references. I also get portfolio links or, if it's a porn producer or male talent, I get like their, all of their links. I look them up on PornHub. I look them up on X hamster just to see, just to make sure that they're not, Random schmuck in their basement. 

I thoroughly go through their social media, including who's following them and who they follow. And if somebody can't provide me with any of those that I've asked for and that they, if they make a big stink about it, I have a list of what I call a red flag list. I will share it with other models, any model that asks for it, I'm totally open to give it to them. 

But I make a very detailed notation of why they're on the list. I feel like this industry, you can't fuck around. It's not safe. So around is, It's not, oh, there's too. There's too much risk. So you really gotta protect yourself.  

[00:13:15] Matthew Holliday: Gotcha. So I've heard the concept of a blacklist like that from a couple of models, which is really cool. But again, the problem is how do you get into the hands of those new models before they're preyed on by those people?  

[00:13:29] Vex Voltage: God, I don't know. That's a million dollar question.  

[00:13:32] Matthew Holliday: Yeah. Cause you can't just put it out there. 

[00:13:34] Vex Voltage: But if someone if someone has crossed a line I will reach out to people that they do follow and that do follow them. And I'm like, Hey, just a heads up. This is what's happening. And I provide screenshots if need be. I'm not afraid to spread screenshots of some, someone that's proving to be a, of.  

[00:13:55] Matthew Holliday: What specific red flags do you look for? What things should a new model when they're approached by somebody online? Should they keep an eye out for 

[00:14:03] Vex Voltage: If they refuse to give you anything, you've got any references, anything you've asked for 

That's definitely a big red flag. If any other model has anything bad to say about this person or anything that gives you a weird. Don't do it. It's not worth it. Don't be afraid to say, no, it's not going to make or break you.  

[00:14:25] Matthew Holliday: Right. What's the current testing requirements for, or expectations for amateur work or semi-mature work? I know full, I know professional work. You're supposed to be tested what every scene or. 

[00:14:40] Vex Voltage: before every scene I'm up to 14. That's how long the industry-wide test is valid for. And the porn industry pretty much knows that. And I haven't so far, I haven't worked with anybody. That's tried to be combative about it. So I think it's something that so far that I have experienced, I've heard stories, with people that have. Forged their talent test. But they, they get, that gets made public very quickly on Twitter. So that's a good thing about Twitter allowing porn is that community is so readily. It's so ready to make it known that this person's dangerous.  

If that, if it does happen.  

[00:15:27] Matthew Holliday: to people that are doing making I don't want to say amateur cause it's. Sir work, but people that are, doing like all the fans and many fed minivan videos, are they following the same standards voluntarily, generally speaking, or is it more ad hoc? 

[00:15:44] Vex Voltage: the people that I have worked with that, like our smaller creators content creators. They, they've all been pretty good about it. I can't speak for the whole industry, but  

[00:15:57] Matthew Holliday: What? I can't believe you can't talk for everybody. 

[00:16:00] Vex Voltage: I just, I don't want to I don't want anything I say to come back and bite me in the ass. 

So I'm just like, in my humble opinion.  

[00:16:08] Matthew Holliday: Yeah. How do you find this type of work or you're looking at personal connections? Are there online classifieds? I know there's one website I saw the other day called adult work.com or something. Are there other websites dedicated to. 

[00:16:24] Vex Voltage: Yes. There's like sexy jobs adult talent finder. My experience with sexy jobs. Is it people it's like people just use it to try to use like S escort or. At least in my inbox, it's people trying to get me to do escort work. So I just, I can my accounts, but networking at events like exotica and ABN AVN is out in Vegas and exotica has like New Jersey, Miami, Chicago, but the more people that you work with, the more exposure you get, which ultimately gets you in front of. 

More people's faces. But like social media is a huge thing. Like most of mine has come from Twitter. And I think that is because I can post a picture of my bottle if I want, and I'm not going to get to, it's not going to. 

get removed. Whereas I can't obviously do that on Instagram, mark Zuckerberg, nipple hating bastard.  

[00:17:29] Matthew Holliday: I've heard Facebook's even worse.  

[00:17:31] Vex Voltage: Yeah.  

[00:17:33] Matthew Holliday: I had some of my videos. I've been putting the audio up on YouTube and I've had several removed because I linked to the model's Instagram. And they're like, this violates our terms of service. It's Instagram.  

[00:17:45] Vex Voltage: Oh my God.  

[00:17:47] Matthew Holliday: Yeah.  

[00:17:48] Vex Voltage: Social media is such a joke.  

[00:17:50] Matthew Holliday: Yeah. So it sounds like for a new model that was trying to break into it, Twitter is probably the right given your experience with the online sites. 

[00:17:59] Vex Voltage: Yeah. And get in reach retweet groups. There are. Like model groups where you just, you retweet everybody in there and then they'll retweet you and ultimately it'll get your more and more followers. They'll start giving you more and more likes and retweets and, eventually you'll start building that fan base and you'll start building that. Pretty much Twitter portfolio. I don't want to say Twitter portfolio, but all my links are on there and I'm constantly like posting my previews and my photo shoot pictures and just stupid shit. I have to say. It's just I don't know, but it's all there. So if a producer wants to know about me, you look at my Twitter and figure it all out. He also got to be really active.  

[00:18:47] Matthew Holliday: Yeah, I suck at that. I'm terrible at being active on social media. 

[00:18:52] Vex Voltage: I had to make myself get better about it. I used to be really bad about it, and I only started seeing results when I started making myself do stuff.  

[00:19:01] Matthew Holliday: Yeah, I think I was talking with Laetitia Leticia awhile ago about that. And she talks about how she schedules two or three hours a day, just to go through and, retweet her followers and talk to them and respond to DMS and all that kind of stuff. Like it's your job. You if you're you want to, you want people to pay you to show them your butthole, then you need to interact with them  

[00:19:21] Vex Voltage: Yep.  

[00:19:22] Matthew Holliday: of potholes online. 

They got to make them want yours. All right. So how does this process normally go? Let's say you're on Twitter and you start making some connections and somebody reaches out to you and say, Hey, I have an opportunity. And Vegas we'll fly you out. Maybe. How does that usually go? 

[00:19:42] Vex Voltage: After I've you mean after I've vetted everyone and everything is like good to go. So usually if I will give somebody my rate and we will have agreed on it. If flight is included. Fucking cool, man, if it's not cool all fucking foot, the bill for it, I don't care like $250 to go to Vegas versus however much I'm going to be making. 

But then after that, I'll be like, okay these are the days that I'm going to be there. I'm going to maximize my time and my money since I've paid. This plane trip. Now that I have a guaranteed shoot, I can, make the plane trip money back and then, add whatever else that I've scheduled to do. 

So I'll try to at least get a month booked ahead of time. So I can promote on Twitter, like crazy that I'm going to be in this place or this place and, retweet, and just ask of my, other performer friends in the industry Hey, what, what producers can I reach out to in this area? 

Because I'm going to be here, do you have any friends in this area, but it's really all about networking and maximizing your time in an area.  

[00:20:51] Matthew Holliday: Does that a shooting normally take place in LA and or Las Vegas. So that's the big places that you have to try. 

[00:20:58] Vex Voltage: LA not really for me, but Vegas, definitely. Vegas is a big place. For, within the porn industry. I haven't, I don't, I haven't been to Florida yet. I'm supposed to go to key west and Miami. But I don't have a date yet, but yeah most of it happens on the west coast, but I have been to New York a couple of times.  

[00:21:22] Matthew Holliday: Interesting. So they normally shoot and they have studios there. Are they using hotel rooms or what? I obviously, I've never, I haven't seen all the porn in the world, but I know that Vegas hotels are a real big a real big studio. You can hear the air quotes for black. 

[00:21:41] Vex Voltage: The only time I've used a hotel room to shoot in Vegas was when I was doing content trades at AB. Performers we'll get together in what's called a content trade. So you both get copies of the footage so you can both sell it or do whatever, however you have agreed to on your terms. However, you're going to distribute it. So I usually shoot in if I go somewhere like that, it's been in a studio there, glory hole. So Cal it was a real glorious, there was a U. Real life glory hole was used, 

[00:22:15] Matthew Holliday: I always thought those ones were fake.  

[00:22:18] Vex Voltage: not this one. Oh,  

[00:22:19] Matthew Holliday: that I've seen the  

[00:22:20] Vex Voltage: woo. This one was very fucking real.  

[00:22:22] Matthew Holliday: Interesting. 

[00:22:23] Vex Voltage: They were very well. Yeah. I knew the other performer on the other side, but there, there were still. There are still people just coming and go and do it, having their own Gloria whole experience. I'm like, this is fucking wild because that was my first glory hole experience was shooting for Gloria. 

So Cal I'm like, whoa.  

[00:22:48] Matthew Holliday: So you mentioned that you definitely. Work with professionals. And you've got a lot of things that you look for in a professional.  

[00:22:55] Vex Voltage: Yeah.  

[00:22:56] Matthew Holliday: What happens when there's an amateur that wants to try and break into shooting erotica and Juni important? What did they do if most of the talent only works with the pros, 

[00:23:09] Vex Voltage: I can't say it enough, but like Network, number one, shoot, solo content. Even like even the guys shoes, solo content. And It gets you out there. It. It lets other people know that you're serious. And I think that's a big thing, especially from a guy's side, but solo stuff is definitely, just having a presence is definitely the first step. 

Create a presence, I guess I should say, like a brand yourself and work on molding your presence as a business.  

[00:23:48] Matthew Holliday: What kind of ducks are you expecting the videographer to have, in a row when they're looking to hire you? I assume they're going to have to take care of the studio. They're going to take care of the location. One of the things are you expecting them to bring to the table? 

[00:24:02] Vex Voltage: Good communication. Number one, first and foremost, I need to know what's being expected of me before I stepped foot on an airplane. And that cannot change. And if it does change, you gotta say something, if you're in an unsafe position ever, don't be afraid to walk off the walk, the fuck off of a set. There are some studios that shoot rough rougher content that you would be like, oh my God, what the fuck? Facial abuse is one of them. Not everyone can handle shooting that. I made it through, but it's they like to they like to try to shoot newer models. So it's one of those things you need to look at. 

That's why it's important to look at a studio's previous work. So you don't go, you don't fly up there, decide that you can't do it. If you can't don't feel bad, but just you need to know. What pool you're about to swim in?  

[00:25:07] Matthew Holliday: Yeah, I think there was a article a couple of months ago, or some people were arrested because they advertised it as like a soft core photography shoot. And then when the actresses got there, they pressured him into a boy girl. Shoot. 

[00:25:22] Vex Voltage: Was that facial abuse or was  

[00:25:24] Matthew Holliday: I don't think so. No, I don't think so. I think it was. I don't remember the specific. 

[00:25:31] Vex Voltage: This was another point that I wanted to make the minute. If you are talking about doing a photo shoot, get the, get, always get the outline of a photo shoot before you go bring in escort. If somebody has a problem with your escort coming, they have ulterior motives.  

[00:25:52] Matthew Holliday: Yeah, that's always a big one. If somebody doesn't want an escort that's cause they don't want what they're going to do. See. 

[00:25:57] Vex Voltage: exactly. I feel like I was going to add another point to that, but I don't remember. 

[00:26:02] Matthew Holliday: It's pretty good point. So I know the 

[00:26:05] Vex Voltage: Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I remember I was to say the minute that, if you're going to do, if you're going to do a clothed photo shoot, the minute you're asked to take something off to where you have to get naked. Even if it's implied, that's crossed a bit, that's crossed your personal boundary and that's not what you agreed to do. 

And I that's a dangerous situation. So it's always vetting is very important.  

[00:26:34] Matthew Holliday: Girls do porn, that's it? 

[00:26:36] Vex Voltage: Huh? Okay. I'm going to have to  

[00:26:40] Matthew Holliday: Yeah. They arrested about a year and a half ago. They arrested two people that were running it. I'm sure I'll hopefully some of the videos were legitimate, but apparently there were 22 models that accused them. Oh, I see. I'm going to edit parts of this out, cause I'm sure listening to beat Google stuff online is just the best radio, but they would fly a woman to San Diego, take her to the hotel room and pressure to sign a contract quickly without reading it. 

They give them alcohol and pot and then they would do, they would tell them the videos would be shipped on DVDs to customers overseas. And then they release them locally and it wasn't so boast to be explicit to start with. They were told no one would find out their true identity. How? 

[00:27:26] Vex Voltage: There was a lot of from the start of the. Like the way things happen. There's so many red flags in there.  

[00:27:33] Matthew Holliday: Yeah.  

[00:27:34] Vex Voltage: it's all red flags,  

[00:27:36] Matthew Holliday: Yup. Yup. This seems like people that just ignored.  

[00:27:41] Vex Voltage: everything.  

[00:27:42] Matthew Holliday: Yeah.  

[00:27:43] Vex Voltage: That's why I, that's why I said don't be afraid to say, no, it's not going to make or break you.  

[00:27:48] Matthew Holliday: yeah. Yeah. And this is another thing too. Definitely seen people use intoxicants on set or heard of it, I guess I should say. And that just seems like a terrible idea. 

[00:28:01] Vex Voltage: Yeah, I've been on set once with somebody that was under the influence of some stimulant and he couldn't keep his Dick hard and he was just sweating buckets. And I was looking at the producer and I'm like, can we call this shit now? He's blaming me for not stay in hard. And quite frankly, I don't appreciate.  

[00:28:21] Matthew Holliday: That's some typical boy. Shit. 

[00:28:23] Vex Voltage: Yeah. And I, after we shot, he just dropped off face the earth. So I don't know, but that was for a studio up in New York who I've shot for multiple times. So it was a weird,  

[00:28:37] Matthew Holliday: Yeah. So who would you expect to see on site? You mentioned looking up at the producer. I assume that's not the same person as the videographer. How many people are there normally on one of these sets? 

[00:28:47] Vex Voltage: It depends. It depends what studio. Intimacy the guy shoots, edits networks runs it and he has a day job.  

[00:28:59] Matthew Holliday: is busy dude. 

[00:29:01] Vex Voltage: I think he's in it and I think he's also a  

[00:29:04] Matthew Holliday: many photographers than it. 

[00:29:06] Vex Voltage: Yeah, he is a he's also a volunteer paramount.  

[00:29:09] Matthew Holliday: Wow. It's  

[00:29:11] Vex Voltage: Which is good that have it like on a double penetration shoot where there's a giant Dick in my butt, so good.  

[00:29:22] Matthew Holliday: That's not how you perform CPR. Alright. I also saw that you have a tweet on not working with male talent, that,  

[00:29:31] Vex Voltage: Oh yeah.  

[00:29:32] Matthew Holliday: is not established. So I assume there's a story about it. 

[00:29:35] Vex Voltage: Holy fucking shit. This is a fresh story. This is fresh story from this week. So I will go through my Twitter out, like my Twitter, outbox I message requests. Just to look and just to see if there's any like other talent or any other like producers that have reached out that, For whatever reason. 

But this guy he asked if he could, if I was ever looking for people to film with multiple times. And I finally, because he was blowing my message requests inbox up, I was just like, no, I only shoot with people that are previously established within the adult entertainment industry. They have to have a fresh talent test result, which is industry standard. 

You have to give me all of your links. You have to show me who you worked with, blah, blah, blah. I went through my whole schpeel. And then he came back with oh, I have a clean test, but all and I was like, thanks, blah, blah, blah. So whatever. Tuesday the minute, the doors at work open, he comes to the bar and asked me if I've changed my mind. 

That's invasive as fuck  

[00:30:45] Matthew Holliday: followed you to work. 

[00:30:47] Vex Voltage: hidden follow me to work. 

but he knew that I was going to be at the club and showed up because he followed me on Twitter and I post when I'm going to be.  

I look at bartenders management security and everybody other dancers, I'm like, look, this is the story. This is what happened. 

That's that guy. And I fucking, I blocked him. I'm not playing that fucking game.  

[00:31:11] Matthew Holliday: Note to self how not to request of ecstasy. 

[00:31:15] Vex Voltage: Like how did that, like, how does, how did you think that was gonna work out for.  

[00:31:21] Matthew Holliday: Obviously you're going to see how attractive he was. 

[00:31:25] Vex Voltage: top of that, this man has never once purchased one of my videos. He's never, when the pandemic hit, he didn't tip me anything online. He's never subscribed to anything. All he's wanted to do is talk to me and messages about how he can shoot with me,  

Him multiple times no,  

[00:31:43] Matthew Holliday: so that actually you bring up an interesting point there. About people purchasing your videos and supporting you with only fans and other things, is that normal for people within the industry to, buy each other's videos and pay for each other's only fans, et cetera, et cetera,  

[00:31:57] Vex Voltage: Yeah.  

[00:31:58] Matthew Holliday: like to check out the kind of work they're doing and what they're and all that kind of stuff. 

[00:32:02] Vex Voltage: Yeah. Yeah. It's just support curiosity. I may have a bunch of.  

[00:32:07] Matthew Holliday: Interesting. So that's something I've definitely struggled with when I've been doing the research for the podcasts is, I we range this usually a couple of days to a week ahead of time. And, I go through their open source stuff and always been eh, I don't know that I should, it feels weird to go in through their only fans. 

So that's interesting. 

[00:32:26] Vex Voltage: I've had I've had producers and I think there's another podcast that, that subscribed to my thing. It was a Manolo show.  

Yeah. A bunch of people, do it for scientific research.  

[00:32:38] Matthew Holliday: That's  

[00:32:39] Vex Voltage: ha I have my, my, Yeah. 

I do put my previews on PornHub, but the preview has a link at the bottom as to where you can find it. So whether the video is on only fans or whether the video is on many vids, it like, if you like the preview, there's a link on there. And then there. I think that there are a few, like Colin's cuties that I've shot for. I think that he is on model hub, but I'm not a hundred percent sure now that the payment stuff has jumped through a bunch of hoops and is on fire and crashing. 

And I don't know.  

[00:33:14] Matthew Holliday: Ah, all let's talk about that. I see you've got only fans and many beds. And what was the other, there was two others on, and I have to go back to your link tree. 

[00:33:25] Vex Voltage: I have avian stars and I added just for fans, but I'm getting them be mirrors of my only fans.  

[00:33:32] Matthew Holliday: Gotcha. So what's the main difference. So your main two platforms and our only fans in many beds, what's the difference? 

[00:33:40] Vex Voltage: So only fans. It's like a, it's a paywall site that offers pay-per-view posts. So you can send you can send a private message to everybody with the same video saying, unlock this for $5. This is what it is. So they have the option to buy it. There it's similar to Patrion, except it's like porn,  

[00:34:02] Matthew Holliday: Yeah, 

[00:34:02] Vex Voltage: but there are other people on there, like magicians, like I guess, and comedians,  

[00:34:07] Matthew Holliday: not the majority of  

[00:34:08] Vex Voltage: got kicked off a Patriot. I don't know. Many of it's allows you to have a store and you can also sell items in addition to your videos, like I've sold a bunch of socks and a bunch of panties and some bras on there. I think I'm about to start selling some stripper shoes on there that are all banged up. 

But now, there's also a live streaming feature. There's a live streaming feature on only fans, but I haven't used it. So I can't like. I can't really tell, I feel like I'm 

[00:34:35] Matthew Holliday: Yeah. 

[00:34:36] Vex Voltage: able to talk about it, but many vids. It's very user-friendly from a creator point of view, at least there also is a new feature that was like the VIP club, which is, revamped their crush club, which is people. 

would pay a monthly subscription and then they would see what you would post. 

But there was, it used to be very limited. There was like, You can only post you couldn't post huge big files. Like I couldn't post a five minute video, which is why I stopped using it. I would only use it to do pictures, but then I'm like, this is stupid. I'm making myself do more work. So they, each, they each, I like them both because each has a strength where the other one has the weakness. And I D I started out on many vids selling my videos. Fans. It has the site traffic and it's well known even though I've had it. So I think August, 2019 is when I started it. So many bids, it doesn't have as many users. It still has a lot of users and traffic. And I do, I sell a lot of videos on there, but it's designed to be adult creator friendly.  

[00:35:46] Matthew Holliday: Gotcha. And then many vid or not many events just for fans and AVN stars. Are those recent, all the fans replacements after the big country. 

[00:35:55] Vex Voltage: I've had avian star. At the same time I made my only fans account because I was going to the AVN expo and I wanted to have a presence on the actual avian website. And the original intention was for it to be a mirror, but I couldn't keep up with it because I was putting out a video every day, doing a photo set every day, networking, and then. 

Devastatingly tired by the end of the day. So it fell behind, but I still had some content on there. So now I'm just getting it, I'm getting it back to, equal with only fans in terms of the archive I'm putting on it. Same with just her van. 

[00:36:37] Matthew Holliday: So for the videos that you make for your yourself to sell on many beds or did a paper message on only fans, do you typically do, is that solo work or are you bringing in another talent? 

[00:36:49] Vex Voltage: I actually, since only fans is my main paywall platform, I try to I try to have a variety of stuff because I have a variety of fans that subscribe. And I always, like I say, if you've subscribed to my only fan, my inbox is. So I'm like, I try to message all the new subscribers and I'm just, it, some fall by the wayside, but my DMS are open and I'm very I don't make that a secret. 

It says in my bio of only fans, the MDMs are open. I, I'll bring, sometimes I'll bring other guys in with guys It's few and far between just because of where I live. There's not a lot of other talent that I know of. 

[00:37:30] Matthew Holliday: It's Midwest right.  

[00:37:31] Vex Voltage: Yeah. 

St. Louis Chicago is close. Which, you know, Chicago, Kansas city, Nashville. 

I had just got back from Nashville, two weeks ago from shooting boil content that I am going to put on only fans, but I do I'll do solo stuff. I'll do art projects. I'll be like, look at the makeup shit that I did today. I'll have behind the scenes stuff. I'll have stuff from work. Back. Oh Yeah. 

Back to what I was saying, like I'll, I get a general idea of what my fans fetishes are. So I have a ton of foot fans on there. If I know I had a spit, I have some spit fans on there, so I would try to like spit on my face. So I would try To make my video meet in the middle and I would have a variety that way. 

And then I would do fetish specific stuff. I would, just a variety of stuff. Like I took a tripod to a local nature park here one day and I did like selfies where I I got an, a, I think I walked like a quarter of a mile off the trail through a bunch of. Shit. I wasn't supposed to walk through probably like into a Creek and I took pictures and it was like, holy shit. 

It was like crazy. But this is just, this is all shit that ends up on my fucking only fans. So it's a wide variety of shit. I try to keep a range. 

[00:38:55] Matthew Holliday: To most of your fans, not only fans message you or a lot of them stay quiet and just prove. 

[00:39:01] Vex Voltage: The people that have been on there since the very beginning there, they talked to me on there constantly. And they also they'll also message me like on Instagram or Twitter. And since I know that they're my subscribers, I have them in a separate folder on Instagram. So make sure that I don't miss it. 

So this is just, extra little, tiny attention to details that, not that big of a deal.  

[00:39:25] Matthew Holliday: What she thinks. The only fans or minivets, which one makes more money. 

[00:39:31] Vex Voltage: Probably, oh God, I don't know. I would think only fans just because the people who, I don't know, I would say only fans, just because I think that I'm on it more and I'm putting more on it. I think if I were to put all of my videos and all of my archives on many bids, I think that many bids would do better. 

But since I've put all of the the energy into only fans and I still upload too many bids, like I'm still active on many bids. It's just every day every day during the pandemic, I woke up, I did my makeup. I filmed for only fans. And then some days I would take a break from only fans and I would film a couple for many bids. 

So I was like, juggling. While making sure both platforms are active. I still put all of the focus in only fans.  

[00:40:22] Matthew Holliday: interesting. So it sounds like you would recommend new content creators start with only fans probably. 

[00:40:29] Vex Voltage: Yes, but in light of recent events, I think it's smart for you to have mirror platforms as well. And what that, all that means is just, you have it's the same. You take all of the shit that you have on only fans and you put it on avian stars or pocket stars or loyal fans or whatever, but just make sure that the platform that you do pick is the one that will work best for you. 

Like definitely do your research about payout. Usually it's like an 80 or an 85% payout. Just you just do your research before you put all of your time into uploading videos to one site, because then you might determine that this other site would have been better.  

[00:41:12] Matthew Holliday: All right. So this came up on Twitter. Somebody posted how everybody wants to talk to sex workers, but nobody ever wants to talk about mental health care and sex work. So that's where some of these questions came off of. So what is your self-care routine after you've finished the scene? 

Especially one that's, maybe a little on the BDSM E or a rough side. 

[00:41:34] Vex Voltage: I have a good support system. That definitely helps. I've really bad. Traveling anxiety, just using Las Vegas for as an example, I had a really awesome, but intense BDSM shoot with temperatures, Mars. She does have an AB and stars account and she also does have a Twitter account. So be sure to follow her. 

We went out for sushi afterwards, so like she was done like, Beating my ass. And I was, it was great. Seen previous on port. I of even wants to check it out sushi. So like with that being said, like a good diet, so like a good diet definitely hydrating hydration is like the first and foremost healthy boundaries in your personal life. 

And like self care time. So I'm, my skin. I take a shower, I make sure my nails are painted, just so I like feel good. So it's, it's a lot, being on, scrolling through Reddit, talking to people, watching TV, playing video games on the laptop. If I'm  

[00:42:36] Matthew Holliday: up all my time.  

[00:42:37] Vex Voltage: Yeah.  

[00:42:38] Matthew Holliday: I've been trying to be better about not playing as many video games and I just spend the time surfing Reddit instead. So it's not like I'm being any more productive with the time. 

[00:42:47] Vex Voltage: I'm on I oh my God. I'm on world of Warcraft wall. I'm on Reddit. So it's like through the while it's too much. 

[00:42:54] Matthew Holliday: I just, I finally quit world of Warcraft again. Just got boring, which  

[00:42:58] Vex Voltage: it's boring. as shit. I got a billion alts.  

[00:43:01] Matthew Holliday: I can't stand making alts. 

[00:43:03] Vex Voltage: I okay. So God, oh, this is going to no, you know what? Fuck it. I'm proud of it. I have 380. Not, no, do I have three? No, 389 mounts. I'm almost at 400 and I think that's the only reason I still play. Wow. 

I'm so fucking close to the 400.  

[00:43:24] Matthew Holliday: I was a little worried. You were going to say 389 alts, a little worried about 

[00:43:28] Vex Voltage: at no, there's too many. That's too many. I do have at least two of everything though, but I've been playing since 2004.  

[00:43:38] Matthew Holliday: gotcha. Yeah. I don't know when my wife and I started playing, but my son was born and we couldn't really go out anymore and do anything. So we started playing world of Warcraft on Friday nights instead. So yeah, that was ah, anyways, no, there's not a word of workout podcast. So have you ever run into any photographers or videographers that were bad for your mental health and what did they do and why are they. 

[00:44:08] Vex Voltage: One of my best friends here is one of my, like one of my like main photographers. But she is good for my mental health, but this story is it's not bad for my mental health, but it was just like, oh God why are you have to be like this? So this photographer that said he had just moved here from Los Angeles wanted to do like a sport shoot with me. 

So we agreed to meet at Starbucks. Which I'll, always mean a public place. I feel like, I shouldn't say that's a given, but I'm just going to say it always meet a public place.  

[00:44:37] Matthew Holliday: There are some things that we can repeat over and over here, things like the things like not having an escort, things like not wanting to meet in a public place. We can repeat those over and over again. 

[00:44:47] Vex Voltage: Yes. But he CA he was, he knew I did porn because I, I don't make what I do a secret. I don't need to make it a secret, but he kept trying to say he wanted to get into porn. I'm like, I kept being like can we talk about the photo shoot, I'm here to talk to you about. please. And he was just like, it's cold in here. 

Do you want to go to the car? And I'm like no, I don't like it. He kept just trying to push oh, do you, will you look at my penis and see if I have what it takes, I'm like, this is over. I'm like, we're done. This is over. I am not shooting with you ever again. 

Or like ever. So he then messages. As a different, under a different name something. And I'm like, aren't you the one that. 

tried to show me his Dick at Starbucks and he immediately blocked me. And then I noticed in one of my Facebook groups that I'm in a local modeling group, he's been hitting other models of trying to do the same shit.  

[00:45:48] Matthew Holliday: At least he told you who he was before you made it to the actual shit that  

[00:45:52] Vex Voltage: That's true. It was very. He wasn't very good at being sneaky, but good. Like these people don't need to be sneaky like these. Oh God. And if he if anyone, new ever runs into anybody like that no, just walk out, walk away. You don't need that. And then make it, take it to social media.  

[00:46:14] Matthew Holliday: Has the fact that you do porn been a consistent issue with photographers? If you get a lot of that? No.  

[00:46:20] Vex Voltage: No. 

just because of the process that I do to vet people. So it's done it's done wonders for weeding out predatory photographers.  

[00:46:31] Matthew Holliday: that's good. All right. We're just about out of time here. I have one last question for you and then we'll go and close out. What is the favorite scene you've ever done? 

[00:46:41] Vex Voltage: I really like all of my scenes with Nadia white. I love her so fucking much. We did an awesome threesome that we just. Our paths were crossing in Nashville and we shot like a threesome with her and her husband, Jason Michaels. So that was really fun. I also liked the scene that I talked about earlier that I did with temperatures, Mars. 

It was shot by Curtis Walker a photo bang, bang and Las Vegas. And it. Just the way it was shot the lighting, like his camera angles, just wow. Everything about it was just like amazing. And it was so fluid. You can tell that I had like extreme like chemistry, like mentally and physically with temperatures, Mars. 

So that's definitely my favorite scene that I've done? 

today.  

[00:47:34] Matthew Holliday: So Becks, where can everyone find you online? 

[00:47:38] Vex Voltage: Only fans.com/vex voltage. I am vex voltage on Twitter and on Instagram. Cause some other fucker took my fucking handle.  

[00:47:47] Matthew Holliday: Hunt them down? 

[00:47:48] Vex Voltage: I know many bids, it's vex, voltage that many bids.com avian stars stars, the ABN dove X volts. Just four.fans/x voltage. Wow. I don't know how I remembered all that. If he go to my Twitter, my Instagram, my link trees are in my bio  

[00:48:05] Matthew Holliday: Yeah, we'll probably just take the link to that. And your Twitter in the show notes.  

[00:48:10] Vex Voltage: Yeah.  

[00:48:11] Matthew Holliday: Do you have any ongoing projects you'd like to mention. 

[00:48:14] Vex Voltage: I am getting ready to do a big. Horror porn film. It's under very tight reps very secret, but it is about it's being written right now. And I'm also going to be doing a lot of the gore makeup, which I'm very excited about. So my hands are going to be busy with that, but that is a project. 

I also, I do a lot of watercolor art. That's also an ongoing project. I need to open a store. I do custom watercolor paintings. Yeah. So just hit me up with that Swiss army knife. I tell you what, 

[00:48:57] Matthew Holliday: I assume you all, I assume you'll plugs a movie when it comes out on Twitter. 

[00:49:00] Vex Voltage: oh yeah. It's I'm going to it's I'm going to be riding that Dick for a long time. Yeah.  

[00:49:05] Matthew Holliday: And with that, we are done. Check us out@thesfwphotographypodcast.com on Twitter. As at NSFW photography, Instagram at the NSFW photography podcast, and subscribe at your favorite podcast app. Keep making art, keep sharing.

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